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Hello,

dont know if im the only person to ever have bought a 04 1.6 petrol c-max as nobody on this forum mentions them.

Any way my question is.....Does anyone pull a caravan with this model and do they have any problems and what weght do you pull?????

thanks in advance
 

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Hi, don't mean to teach anyone how to suck eggs but the Caravan Club state that to tow safely, you caravan should be no more than 85% of the kerb weight of you towing vehicle.  You can find this information in you vehicle's owner manual.
 

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Also consider what type of roads you'll be driving on (Flat or in the hills) as a consequence of the engine power to pull a bigger caravan
 

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The kerb weight guide is the best to follow...but you have to know which kerb weight is quoted. My understanding is that common UK practice does not include the driver, but continental practice does. Being a Ford, probably the latter applies.
The not-so-good news is that for towing you are far better off with a diesel engine. I have this year switched from a petrol 1.8 Citroen to a 2 litre C-Max after struggling with the Citroen. The diesel delivers much, much more torque at half the revs.
 

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All the weights and other information on the VIN (vehicle identification number0 plate is covered by a european standard that covers all Europe so it should be the same
 

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I think the legal limit for the 1.6 petrol is 1200kg, which is about 85% of kerbweight.
Good points: I tow a Bailey Ranger 4-berth, MTPLM (Maximum Technically Permissable Laden Mass) of 1250kg. This 'van has a body length of 5.05m and a total of 6.73m. At all times it is stable. This is with a 1.8TDCi though.
Bad (but not the end of the world) Point: the 1200 kg limit for the 1.6 (check the handbook). Mind you, on the M1 services a similar sized van pulled in behind us, towed by a 1.6 petrol Scenic.


The Caravan Club website is a good source of information, it may be worth going on a towing course as run by the clubs.

As a rule, the newer the 'van the heavier they can be. However, Bailey, Avondale and Lunar make some of the lightest UK tourers at present.

Your choice of van will therefore be somewhat restricted, but a 4-berth 'van should be possible. Have a good Google for more information and good luck. Don't bother with the factory-fit towbar unless it's already on the car though as they don't wire up all the pins on the 13-pin socket.

Good luck! Mike.
 

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According to a copy of the manual I have the weights involved are on a plate on the N/S front door post. Reading down they are
Gross Vehicle Weight
Gross Train Weight
Maximum Front Axle Weight
Maximum Rear Axle Weight

Now Gross Train Weight (vehicle plus whatever you are towing) is often now also known a MAM (Maximum authorised mass) and refers to the POSSIBLE MAXIMUM rather than the figure at that time

Do remember also that recent driving licences don't now include for towing a trailer with a possible weight greater than 750Kg by rights (It now means another test - you need to kook for the group B+E on the licence or the photocard)
 

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just to make a liar of me theis plate on my 1.6TDCi diesel is on the UK drivers side It also says that the tow limit is only 1300Kg so do be aware of the figures allowed
 

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I had a focus estate 1.6 petrol and towed an avondale dart 556/6 all over (1300kg laden). However coming out of Whitby last year I got stuck on a hill that it just would not go up. Wife and kids got out and I just managed to get up the hill. (Had too wait 10 mins for them to walk to the top of the hill). Because of this I decided to change, I got my cmax 1.8 tdci as a replacement, I can honestly say the difference was obvious. I recently came back from cornwall to manchester and averaged 29.7 mpg which I think is good with a 5.56 metre van on the back.

chris.
 
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